Tradition

Hyo Jin Moon
October 7, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 07 October 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv and definingmoment.eu
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

How are you doing? (Good)

I feel a little restless; a lot of routine.

So how have you been doing? Hanging in there? (Laughter, yes)

Let's talk about tradition.

These days we have a lot more than the amount of church holidays than we used to have. Right? (Laughter)

It's almost like every week there's some ceremonial days. Right?

Is that good? Does it make you feel better?

What does tradition give you; what kind of feeling does it give you?

What do you do with tradition; what happens to you when you face tradition? What goes through your mind?

"Today it's this celebration; on this day we're celebrating or ceremonializing something" What does that mean to you? (Closeness to God). And you want that every day? So every day should be ceremonial day (Laughing).

We have to find some kind of ceremonial topic to celebrate three-hundred and sixty-five days a year. When are we going to work when we're always celebrating? (Laughing) I mean that it's all good...

It's just that give-and-take stuff I guess. That's what it's trying to emphasize, I guess, to symbolically try to teach us.

When we celebrate something, we take something, right? And we have to give. That's about it, isn't it?

How does one celebrate something? How does one make something that is important into a tradition? How does something become a tradition?

Let's say that you're Japanese and that you're proud of something. You like a certain tradition. Why do you like that tradition; why do you think that tradition is important? Because it gives you pride. Pride in something, what ever you identify with, what ever it means, that's what it gives you.

Without pride you can't have tradition. So how does one become proud of some thing? So how do you inspire... how do you go about achieving pride?

It's inspiration, and there's the degree of it. But, before pride there has to be some kind of provocation. And what does inspire us to go to the next phase? How do we feel that something "Hey I want to be part of that stuff!" Of course it can be good and bad; it depends on where your head is at. But if it's going to last, it should be good. That's safe to say because we're good people in the end, everybody. We can make bad choices because of the problems that we face, as we know, but we're all good in the end.

We want to be good, and we want to inspire each other in goodness. So what is good inspiration? What is the inspiration that makes us better? We have to know the basic things that give us our quality as a human being that I can say "THIS is me!" This is my innocence; this is my truth; this is my humility; this is my sacrifice; this is my gift, to you God, because all of us have to do that.

Some people will inspire you a little more than the other. They'll be fluctuations, but that's life. That's how we grow. But that is the way. You want absolute; that is the way. You want a way to make everyone good, that is the way. So that's how you try.

It doesn't matter what you have left. You will grow. Children can bother you when they're crawling around and they grow up and start to complain and give you a hard time and try to overcome you, and try to ride on your shoulders; Especially in the secular world, when you go like this (gesturing like washing my hands its over) after eighteen years old that's basically what it is. You know good riddance.

Are you having a jolly good time?

We need to make more good traditions. We have a lot of traditions, but if we want to compete and win, we need good traditions, more good traditions, more new good traditions. Why? Without it you can't build a culture. You can't build a society. We need to have that stuff. We need to be strong. Without that kind of pride and tradition, you can't be strong.

Unfortunately physical world is physical world. We need to face it as it is and that's what we have to do. We need to focus on those things; that's what's important.

Unfortunately a lot of stuff that church members did in the past wasn't done properly. A lot of people are no good, fallen people. They try to stay in certain positions for that reason. Before the eyes of Father they speak well, but in the end they have nothing. Why, because it's just about that. It takes basic stuff to make you good at anything, and it takes time and it takes a whole lot of stuff just to be good at one thing. And who are you kidding?

I know my Father's urgency, but that does not give you the right to do the things that some people do. That's wrong. And due to it, we'll suffer in the end. There are always the consequences. You will suffer.

Tradition, what kind of tradition do you think that we need to create?

A new tradition that can change the world, little-by-little.

OK?

What is that thing that can change thing a little bit starting from you to your friends, your work place, whatever.

That little change, what is it; that little change that you can make?

That's what you need to focus on, because that's something that you can do.

WE have to do it. You can't just allow somebody to make a lot of noise and talk and talk. No that's wrong.

What can you do? What kind of tradition can you make that is good?

Think about it. And if you're part of a certain group then talk about it. Talk to each other.

If you're on a fundraising team or a witnessing team talk about it. You're not going to be there for ever, right?

You have to do something. Just try to think in a way that makes sense to you in reality. OK?

But it will grow that way, (emphasizing each word) it should!

That's how you're going to get bigger... and better...

And you will die. (Laughter)

It's good to see you. (Thank you)

Everything is going OK; I'll tell you later. I don't like to talk too much about stuff until it's done.

Anyway if it's done right you can see it for yourself.

(Taps podium twice)

See you next week.

Power

Hyo Jin Moon
September 2, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 02 September 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning (Good morning)

What is the definition of power to you?

Who do you think is powerful?

What is power good for?

Lawmakers, they're powerful, right, generally speaking, in their idiopathic way. Do you think that they can be changed simply?

How does one become, let's say, a US Senator or a member of the House of Representatives? They have their own history and they know it. They are aware of every step of the way that they struggled to get to that position of power.

When you try to assert yourself, you do that because you're basically saying "I'm here." That's what power is. Right? "I'm here; I exist, and this is me. What do you want to mess with me?" Basically that's how it starts.

So how do you change somebody who knows exactly well how he has earned quote/unquote the power and become a member of the house of representatives or a US Senator?

And how do you change them? What kind of greater power do you need to transform those people? Is there such a thing? Do we possess such a thing? If there is such a thing, then how do you possess it? Where does it lie? What is it?

It can't be a miracle. Right? It has to be real.

So where is the true power? When God blew Himself up and started this creation process. Only He has that ability to divide Himself and literally create a counter action, a counterpart so He can reciprocate and start the creation process. We're just a by-product of that Divine ability.

We think that we have that ability, but I'd love to see it. If you think you have it, then blow yourself up and start creating your own universe! (Laughter) But we try ... in our head, starting with our head. I don't know how tangible it can become in the end, and actually make matters different, but you try. People do that all the time. That's why there are mental hospitals, and a lot of drug companies make a lot of money treating those people. (Hyo-Jin-nim laughs) and all sorts of stuff.

So, having said that, how do you change those people? How do you change those people who think that they are powerful? They know exactly what they want to do; they know who they're catering to. I have my faith. We all have faith. Right? Especially, in America, you have to have faith; you've got to have some kind of religious affiliation.

And how do you change them? When people come, they come because they think they can be helped, what ever their agenda might be, because they think you have money, access to money.

When I went to Africa, I saw a lot of incumbent African politicians that were attending the tour. Their assessment is based on whatever we have projected to them, and it looks impressive because this is America. A whole lot of things went into America. What do you think that whole lot of stuff was? A lot of sacrifices from a lot of people, but ultimately in the end, what did you build? What do we have to show for it?

And still, to this day, the symbolisms that we have, how do we keep it running? Can we maintain it ourselves individually, self sufficiently? You tell me. You should know as much as I.

That's as far as it goes; that's what they're looking at when you're in Africa. Not in America. Because all those people in Africa, they want to be president too, if they're just a member of Parliament. That's about it. There is no other connection; that's the problem. And how do you make that connection real?

How did those people become elected to begin with anyway? It's because of people like you, the voters. That's where the power is. They have delegated the power to those people in democracy. Right? People's power was delegated to those people to represent you because they need that kind of representation.

People need representation to make their lives greater so that they can focus on an individual level on taking care of themselves. And by delegating the responsibility to those representatives, hopefully, ideally, you're going to make their lives better. Individual's lives better.

Because we all struggle to find ourselves, but at a certain point in time, we choose that representation to expedite that process because it's necessary. Why? Because we all want to be happy.

Power is not there to.. "Arrrgh I'm going to use this power to punish you." It's not there for revenge. Power is there for what? Making love greater.

And when you think about love, what is love? The definition of love can be myriads of things that bring you closer, that brings you happiness in the eyes of God. Right?

That's the thing. You can be happy with all sorts of sick stuff, but that's not where power needs to be.

Sometimes you know; sometimes you have to kind of reserve your own power, because there will be a time, individually speaking, when "Hey, I'm going to feel helpless one day, someday. I'm going to feel powerless one day. I'm going to feel sick and tired of this stuff someday. I can't take it any more. I'm too tired."

If you think that you are powerful then sometimes reserve something for yourself, because you need that stuff. Nobody, nobody is that perfect.

Power just gives you a flash like the light of a firefly. It is just there to remind you of your existence in times of nothingness sometimes. And if you abuse it, you're an idiot. because you're not that powerful. You don't shine that bright like the sun.

You made that stuff (creation)? You think you can? OK! Go do it!

I believe that the thing that can bring people together, and informed together, and create communication, create the kind of basis in which there can be human give-and-take in real time, if there is such a medium, that is the thing, that is the kind of powerful thing that can change something. Change something like us individually. And that's what we need to focus on. Because we need to change something like us all over the place.

OK, I'll be out of the country for a while.

Why? Because I'm in the process of making a movie and I have started casting so I have to be elsewhere.

You've got to start somewhere right? You've got to start doing to get there.

But to me SOUND, SIGHT, and WORDS are important.

It takes time.

So I'll be away for a while.

I'll see you when I get back.

OK?

Alright, take care.

Taps podium twice

Change

Hyo Jin Moon
August 26, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 26 August 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning (Good morning)

How are you doing, OK? (OK)

We all know that changes are in the future right?

If anything is going to change, it's going to happen in the future.

Is all change good? Is it all just good? (No)

Sometimes changes can be bad. So how can we determine the change to be the change that we want? How do you go about achieving that?

What's the kind of change that you want? What is an ideal change? Do you have a relationship with God? (Yes) You do? You talk to Him every day? (Yes) Really? (Laughter) OK, that's your opinion. (Laughter) We all have opinions. You can believe what ever you want to believe. This is America. Right? (Laughter)

Do you idolize something, idealize something, does that has to do with something between God and humanity? Or is it personal? Can you make something that is ideal personal? And if you can and if that is doable, then how do you go about achieving that? What had to happen to make ideal personal? What do you have to be to actually achieve that?

Because when you talk about ideal, in a way you have to talk about the relationship between God and humanity. It's God and humanity. Even when you talk with the little information that is there with Jesus, he is a representation of humanity. It is the relationship between God and humanity through our representation, a single representation.

And obviously his course was tragic. And through that something was manifested called Christianity. What is Christianity? There are so many versions of Christianity. How many denominations are there, close to five hundred and growing every day. They (each) have a different interpretation of that single person who represented the relationship between God and humanity.

So when you idolize something and you try to make it personal, you have to know where you stand. Why do you want to make it personal? "Because only then can I have some kind of give and take that I can feel, that can give me some kind of satisfaction or something!"

And why do you want that kind of satisfaction with the relationship between God and humanity? Change, change for the better.

You know, the first thing that goes against change is arrogance. Right? There are so many experts out there that say" I know everything about this, and unless you pass me, you aren't going anywhere, what ever you think you have." And there's another opposite group of people, the insecure defeatists, doomsday sayers, nay-sayers. And there are people in the middle, skeptics and cynics. (that say) "I don't trust you" Trust is a very difficult thing for the cynics and the skeptics. Why? Because they say "look at the history" and that's all they need to say, and they go down the list, bla bla bla bla bla. And (they say) "who the heck are you?"

And how are you going to prove ... it takes time to prove something. Right off the bat you have that kind of challenge. Change (is) difficult just because of the way we think and where we are in reality.

I mean you have to deal with ... I mean you can separate them into all sorts of other levels but basically that's what you have to deal with in order to make change real. You can talk about change, but first of all, you have to go up to that hurdle. How do you do that? How do you convince those people? How do you convince the so-called experts, the arrogant people that (say) "I know everything in this field; unless you prove to me that you know better than I do, I'm not going to move; I'm staying here; this is my authority."

And you go to those people who are absolutely insecure (They say) "No! It isn't going to happen; it isn't going to happen; it isn't going to happen. Just living with my neighbors it isn't going to happen."

So what is the ideal? What is the ideal relationship between God and mankind? What does God want from us? Do you feel His love? (Yes) Really? (Yes) It's a concept isn't it? (One sister says no I feel it) OK. Every body feels the same? (No answer) That's a problem! (Laughter)

That's love. And how do you teach somebody that stuff? How do you learn about that kind of stuff? How do you have the kind of feeling that you have that they can have it as well? How do you do that?

You have to be honest. And you have to try to be as transparent as you can possibly be. Even if it means that you have to be vulnerable, so be it.

What you see is what you get, no other one; that's it. And from there you can start. If anything is going to change, it's going to start with a very simple goodness. That's about it. That we all know, but many times we don't practice because of all sorts of reasons. You can find your own, living in this pretentious world.

You pretend and you try to take as much as you can when the opportunity arises. Right? That's the way. Right? That's the way of capitalism isn't it? You gamble with your life in that way. And it's a short life, and what do you want to change? How long do you think it's going to take to change the world?

We haven't even found the proper communication, ways to communicate with other religions, that are warring in the name of God. That's a big homework isn't it? And it's a very important one because it affects everybody. What good is freedom when you live in terror? What's the point? And how do you go about addressing that issue?

It has to start from very, very basic things; you have to answer that. If you can't do that, there's no way you're going to change the world. I want to change too. I'll always ... All my life I expect things to change for the better, because it was promised to me. I'm still waiting. Most likely, I'll die for it. That's pretty much what I see, the price that I have to pay for the change. So be it. And it's not just me, you too. As long as you are here that's the price you pay.

So what can I do now? You tell me. You want an ideal relationship with God; you want to learn about the greatest love, the eternal love, all the blessing and joy and happiness, everything that was promised, everything that is ideal that you can fantasize. I want that. I want that with God. I want it forever because that's where forever comes from.

Because I want that forever, I need to make that relationship with God. So be it. How do you go about starting that relationship? What are you going to do? What is your first step? What is your second step? What is your third step?

The first step is understanding basic vows. That's about it. The promises that were made, you have to understand that then go to the next one.

What is the next one, after the basic vows? It's you're blessing. Make the blessing work.

And what is the final ... I'm simplifying things. You give your life for it.

And I'll do my best as I learn these things, I'll do my best to help you so that I can help my self achieve that ultimate end, that I'll give my life. Judgment. People die every day. People get born every day. Right?

That's how you change the world, knowing the absolute basic stuff. First of all it's necessary, you have to live it, and I try to live it. That's the pain in the butt part, because it lasts your whole life.

What else can I say? Life sucks! (Laughter) But it can be good. It's just the way that you look at things. It varies in different days.

OK?

Alright, take care.

Taps podium twice

Quality of Life

Hyo Jin Moon
August 19, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 19 August 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning (Good morning)

Another day of the grind, just another day.

Today's topic is "Quality of Life."

Can you give me some idea of what you think quality of life is to you? (No response)

Oh you have no quality of life; that's terrible! (Laughing) OK.

I was watching TV the other day and there was a documentary about conservationism. I guess they summoned some economist and a geologist to estimate what it would cost for the clean water and clean air that we take for granted that nature gives us for free.

There summation was that humanity would have to cough-up annually about thirty trillion dollars for something that we take for granted. Because when we spoil something, based on that kind of logic.

Obviously something is trying to provide us with quality of life, even with the fundamental stuff, just your sustenance, the vital stuff that keeps your body working.

So from there, what are you chasing? What is the quality of life?

Let's say that you're locked up in a prison in a six foot by eight foot cell. It's much better for you to try to somehow get into a work program that you volunteer for. Let's say that you wash thousands of dishes every day; they'll pay you about two dollars a day. Because, based on legality, if they don't pay you, it's slave labor. So you get paid about two dollars a day for doing that kind of stuff, washing toilets or mopping the floor, washing dishes, that kind of basic stuff. The most that you can get is about ten dollars per day being a nurse's aid or doing some clerical work for the bureaucrats.

But at least that's better than being locked up twenty-three hours per day in a six foot by eight foot cell because you have a purpose. When you have a purpose to life, the quality of life changes.

And where you find purpose, it's up to you. You can complain. I mean people complain when they're locked up. "I'm innocent!" Everybody's innocent right? "I shouldn't be here!" (In prison) If you choose to do that (find a purpose) your life can change; the quality of life can change, because you know that you're going to be stuck in there (prison) for X amount of time, because you know what you did wrong and your sentence.

The funny thing about jail is that if you're not sentenced, you don't even get paid. For instance, like if you're in jail for contempt of court, you don't get paid. But it's better to do something than not. That determines, when you're in that kind of miserable situation, even in the worst hell hole; that's hell on earth, living in places like that, if you have something, if you have some meaning, some purpose, it can change the quality of life, because you're going to do it whether you like it or not. You have no choice.

The next thing that I believe that is important... I took my kids down to Boston for a week. Because when I was young, all the entertainment that I had was just reading books. Because in Korea (at that time) TV came on at five o'clock in the afternoon and went off at midnight, because right after the war Korea was poor and couldn't afford to broadcast stuff and spend so much energy and therefore money to have twenty-four-hour programming. What you got was just one cartoon every week. (Laughs) I really looked forward to that.

What are you going to do? You read books. That's why I hate reading books, (laughter) because I read too many books when I was little. I read the same book over, and over, and over, again. In those fantasy books and stuff, all sorts of little story books, they depict something beautiful. It kind of sticks to you, something beautiful, because we all want something beautiful, something more, when they depict something like a beautiful beach, let's say I'm reading a Pirate book or something.

Of course you don't have the kind of white sandy beaches like you find in the Caribbean in Korea. Just going there; there're some beaches with very course sand. When Father took a bunch of leaders to a place like Kang-Nung on the East coast of Korea and He took me with him, and that memory, I still have it and it's still wonderful to me. So because of that it doesn't matter what happens... what the current situation might be, that's the quality of life for me, when it comes to. based on the memory of Father and me. That's it.

And the more that you have it the better right? The clock ticks forward; it doesn't tick backwards. It's done; it's history; it's a memory. Whatever you do. and moving on.

To me the greatest thing that can define the quality of life for me is how much love do I have, how much love can I give and how much love can I get. That is the ultimate thing that will determine the quality of life for me. So you ask yourself how much you can give; are you being loved by others. How much.. God will judge you in the end. The thing is don't waste time judging each other about that kind of silly stuff, but focus on what you can do.

The funny thing is when you're first growing up, when you're a little kids, just physically testing yourself, speed matters first right? You want to be a little Speedy Gonzales (a Character on TV cartoons) always racing each other around, literally speed wise, you know. Then you get into a little more of the "I'm smarter than you" stuff to try to determine intellectual quality and try to measure each other and try to compete with each other.

I guess when boys get a little bit bigger they literally start to get AWWWW QUANTITY! (Laughter) I have a bigger quantity than you! It's funny. And even girls too "I have bigger quantity than you!" (Gesturing toward chest and hips) (Laughter) But all that is during the maturation process to the point of quote/unquote adulthood, it's like that. But when it gets to the point when you have to choose a profession, something that will give you sustenance in life, make a earning, make money so you can live, it goes opposite.

You have to know how to deal with volume; you'd better have the highest quality possible, and you'd better do it in the fastest time possible. That's how you move up the ladder, whether you work in corporate, what ever, in any competitive situation. That has to do with sustenance. It's all about sustenance isn't it? It's about making a living. When money is circulating, that's all it is.

When you retire, all that stuff doesn't matter except for one, quality, quality of life. And what the heck is that? What have you learned? Because what you take when you're dead is what you leave behind in goodness and what you learned. That's all that you take, doing good. Everything else is meaningless.

Once you get older and older you will you will start to feel THAT more every single day, because you know that time is ticking forward and you know that you're going to die anytime soon. So what is life?

So make sure that you know what you're dying for. Make sure that you have a quality of life that you can be proud of, facing death, because you will die. And that's the lesson of this world, learning the quality of life. And you make the answer. You make the answer, not somebody else, because everybody will be responsible for their answers, because your answer is who you are ... and you will die.

Choice? Yes you have a choice, make a good answer. For yourself, not anybody else, start with yourself. Don't worry about other people; other people have the same worries like you. You want to help other people? OK! I commend you for it. That's noble, but that's very difficult.

At least be sure what you're dying for, FIRST, before you try to help somebody else. Be sure, absolutely sure. Otherwise it's just a game you're just playing. And if you think that life is just a game, well OK; that's your opinion. But I think that it's a little more serious than that, because you will die, and you have one life to live.

When you're young you think you can play around, ok so be it, but in the end, you've got one life; that's all you have. You want to play with it? So play with it; it's up to you.

It's a pain in the butt process, learning what's right, when there's so much crap out there that is luring you, dragging you, and pulling you from here to there to whatever, all over the place. I'm sure that you face that stuff each and every day and that you feel that pressure, but it is not a game. OK?

You make that call, and you make that answer, and you're going to stand by it because no one else will. That's it. How many people do you think would be willing to do the (prison) time for you that you deserve? How many people do you know around you who will do that for you? Even if you have people like that, still in the end, you'll stand alone in final judgment.

The quality of life, what is it to you? Think about it.

OK, I'll see you next week.

Taps podium twice

Judgment

Hyo Jin Moon
August 12, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 12 August 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

How are you doing?

Do you like to be judged?

Do you want to be a judge?

Some people they try hard, they go to law school to try to be a judge. I guess that's something that means something to somebody in finality.

How do you evaluate somebody's worth? I was talking to somebody the other day and I just came up with line and I like it; I will share it with you. "I'm cheap; no I'm dirt-cheap; no I'm free!"

Why do we need to judge? It's because we have a lot of questions. You seek an answer when there is no answer that you can accept or that you're hearing in terms of balancing extremes. You always have to deal with that.

Life is about answering ... Trying to understand the extremes in what ever lever you are, in what ever that you do. It doesn't matter. So when you're questioning yourself sometimes if you don't have the answer and if you don't have the patience you'll answer it yourself. Whether you like it or not you become the judge.

Pretty much the free market thrives on this kind of mentality. So that's why things shift in all sorts of unpredictable ways. Because people are judging, and you make money out of their judging.

Is that good or bad? Who knows?

Do you like to be free? Well, that's your freedom.

What is the ideal world then? Is there some kind of design? Well obviously that's what we're trying to figure out. Our whole life is about figuring that out. That's it figuring that out. We spend every single second if you're conscious about that. If that's what you want to know, every second of your life you'll spend trying to figure that out.

And unless somebody can kind of give you some kind of consistency inflow up and down, you're going to be judging, and many times you can make a bad judgment. That's a possibility.

It's not just about faith. It's about action too. It's not about the foundation of faith; it's about the foundation of substance. It's about action, demands, something like that. You need that answer so you can move.

Whether I have it or not, I need that answer. If I don't have it I'm going to give it my own (answer) that's about it.

That's why we commit ourselves to many things that sometimes we might regret later on. Why? Because you question things; I question things. You question things and you need an answer, and if there's no answer, I'll make my own judgment. In other words, I'll give myself my own answer. Whether you like it or not.

Do you want to create an ideal world? OK. Keep something moving forward. Make it flow. Make it flow and keep it moving. It doesn't have to be always big, just something. If it becomes more and more and more meaningful ...

Meaningful in the end it's not subjective stuff; it's objective stuff. It's how you (the audience rather than the speaker) feel in the end. It's not what I say. To begin with I don't want to be here. It's not what I feel; it's what you feel. It's that kind of stuff that's more important.

Why do you have kids? Why do you want a family? Because it's all about you? It's about something greater. Whatever you do, the judgments that you make, if you have to make judgments, it's not about you in the end. It's about something else, more than you, bigger than you, right?

Hopefully you want to be a superstar, right? Whatever, you want to be the best, because that's the kind of natural progress in understanding God.

That's where you start. That's why you need that answer. But the world can be very confusing at times because it's messed up.

You have questions and hopefully you can have an answer around you. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean that your answer that you have to give because of those circumstances, because of the predicament ... Don't believe that is the only answer.

Then you are truly the judge. That will kill you.

Judgment ... You're going to be judged. That's what you do every day to your self.

If you want a more embracing, warmer kind of climate, then try to understand that there's the opposite too.

Life is about control right, earning control, balancing the extremes. And you go step-by-step UPWARD!

Balance is just horizontal stuff. You just levitating, that's about it figuratively speaking. You want to move up; if you want to move up keep that in mind.

Then you go to the next level, the next level, the next level.

Where ever your consciousness is at, it doesn't matter; I don't care; that's irrelevant.

It can be zero and you're still a human being. OK.

Then there's one hundred; a thousand it doesn't matter; a million, who cares?

When you move up, you move up because you know how to balance something; the extremes, in your own way.

Even horizontally you can go far too. Right? If you want to move up, that's how you do it.

If you want to judge yourself then judge yourself, because you're the one who is going to give your self the answer and say that "I can do this! ... and I did it."

Who's that? That's you, not somebody else, not me; it's you.

And that's what it is; that's how you move up.

There's a purpose for everything. Don't use it for stupid things. Know how it affects. OK? Even if you want to heal something, you have to know how things are connected, right?

It's just that. Focus on that stuff, not stupid stuff.

If you want to change the world, then try to get to know what is real about God.

I don't know who's providing that; that's what I'm chasing too.

That's the only way to do it. I believe that. We try.

My reason is a little more personal so it might be a little different, but it's the same thing in the end. We want that stuff, all of us. It doesn't matter how you get there, how you come to that conclusion of trying. That's all we want in the end.

That's the universality. That's what love is. Love can bring every person under the son to life, to try.

OK

Taps podium twice

Who Do You Want To Love Forever?

Hyo Jin Moon
August 5, 2007
Belvedere, 7:00 am

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 05 August 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv and definingmoment.eu
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

(Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.)

Who do you want to love forever? (God and wife)

Did you say garden and wife or God and wife? (Laughter)

God and wife, OK; that's a start. What else? Is there something else? (Kids)

What else? (True parents, the Messiah) The Messiah? (Yourself)

Myself? Yes you can love your self? (Laughter) You can try; you know people try that every day. (Laughter) You know they're trying very hard to make that work for the rest of their lives. OK. (Parents)

Parents, that's a difficult one isn't it? But, where did you come from? So, we have to know exactly, at least the basics of who do you want to love forever. You have to talk about that stuff before you talk about anything else.

So, you want to love God; you should love your parents forever; you want to love your wife; you want to love your children; who else? (Brothers and sisters)

Brothers and sisters? Do you have people other than that kind of lineage orientation? (Friends, all mankind)

All mankind, ok, this is the stuff where people make money in religion. (Laughter) OK.

And what's important? What's important in that kind of relationship? What makes it work? What do you expect out of that kind of relationship? Why do you want to love something forever? And if you do, what makes it work?

The principle says that everything is of give-and-take right? It says that reciprocal love that makes things, love work. So how do you find that reciprocal love? So how do you find it in a real situation? Not something that is in the conceptual realm or something beyond, but how do you find it in reality?

When do you feel that reciprocation of love, when do you feel when somebody is giving something to you that you feel good about taking and you want to do that back to that person? (When you're respected)

So how would you find that sincerity? How do you know? Where do you find that trust? Because when you talk about sincerity, you have to go into trust. How can you trust something? Then you're reciprocating, supposedly.

So from there you start. If you don't answer that stuff; if you can't answer that stuff; you can't start. So, what is your relationship to something that matters to you? I can't answer for you; all I can say is that that's where you start. You have to find your own answers. Why? Because it's your life; nobody else can live it for you; nobody can tell you how to live it. Because you live your life, not me; I live mine; you live yours. That's it. It's as simple as that.

And because of that absolute truth, when you ask the basic questions, and when you're seeking an answer in finding something greater to make your life better, you start; you have to start again. That's about it, whether you like it or not.

I don't care how old you are. It doesn't matter whether you're a teenager, whether you're middle aged, or whether you're... My Father wants to live to be one hundred and twenty. So be it.

You answer that question, nobody else.

So start asking questions about yourself; and start seeking for answers; and start counting. Do I want to love forever? OK?

Count them! Write it down if you have to, Start with that. How can I make this better?

The list can go on and on. Somebody said humanity, OK. I don't know humanity OK. I don't even know you, not all of you; I know some of you.

It's up to you. So what's going to make me better? What's going to make me what level? Eternal level, forever stuff? OK, write the list. Make the list. And you answer to that, no one else. That's why you struggle. OK?

Peace, and happiness, OK we all... Yeah that's why you go to movies right? Sometimes there's something like that. But it takes a process to make things happen. Do you know how important the alignment is to make your body perfect? It's important; it's a process; something has to be right to have that right that you idealize.

No matter how screwed up you are, you want that stuff. That stuff is very difficult to get, and it's not going to be given to you, OK? Trust me; nobody can give it to you, not even God.

So where do you start? Answer that stuff, that basic stuff. Who do I want to love forever?

If you want to be good, at least know that stuff; that's where you start.

I don't know how far you'll make your list, how far, it's up to you. So when you start you'd better know what you're doing because you're going to die for it.

True love has no choice.

Selfish love has a choice.

That's why you want to be a patriot, right? Those poor guys, there are members out there serving for America, for this country, Poor guys, I wish them well.

You have no choice in certain things. That's the irony, right, of truth, of love.

OK, see you next week.

The Parental Role

Hyo Jin Moon
July 29, 2007
Belvedere, 7:00 am

My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv and definingmoment.eu
Joe Kinney

Eric Erstling is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Hello (Good morning)

Let me ask you a question:

Do you need more money? (Yes, Laughter)

Do you need more inspiration (Yes, Yes, No)

Do you need more love? (Yes)

In which order?

You want every thing at the same time! (Laughter)

Let me start with something personal I guess. I came here (to America) in 1973.

I'm not going to say the last name but "Earl" was a kind of funky kid. I was in a kind of period where things were changing in a dramatic way, a lot of persecution stuff, you know, and the only friend I've got is this guy called "Earl." (Hyo-Jin-nim laughs.)

He's the one... I think I was seventh grade or something like that. We had lockers and stuff. He actually brought a beer (laughter) and he brought a cigarette, and he brought a Playboy magazine. That was my first experience to "Earl-ism" (laughter) so I was like fourteen or fifteen.

So what I'm trying to get at is that these days that's what you're worried about, right, about your kids. I've got kids. And today's world is a different world.

Internet schooling is becoming more and more popular, because you can get a basic education via stuff like that, or home schooling. Home schooling has certain limitations but you have that option, and you deal with the argument about what about how kids learn how to relate to other people, about the social skill level stuff. That's where you have the church.

So when you have a kind of basic parental foundation you don't have to compete with that kind of stuff. You can literally take initiative and take control of your situation. You don't have to rely on someone else, because you can compete when you're ready. It takes time to get ready. Nobody is ready right from the start; and that's too much to ask, at times. When you're not in control and it is way, way beyond logic to expect your children, all of them, hopefully, ideally, to take care of themselves somehow. That's just unrealistic. So if you're in control of something, you have to find out appropriate measures. That is your responsibility, whether you like it or not. That's the parental role.

If your children screw up, who are you going to blame? You're going to blame you, right; because it's your children, the society will blame you, and it is your responsibility. You aught to be perfect and you've got to get involved.

So that's just about children. That is the essence of life isn't it; your life, your future, your everything when you're dead and gone.

So... Are we in control?

You want money? How are we going to get money? How are you going to become useful to somebody, in life in general? Like I said you know it is important that you become something that you can reciprocate to the rest of the world based on ESSENCE.

Do you know how to heal? Do you know how to make things better? There are all sorts of things, science, technology, and chemistry, whatever. There are so many things that... Do you know how to inspire? That's hard... and education.

Joe, Joe Kinney here, he sends his Email (of Hyo-Jin-nim's speech notes) to a lot of guys I guess. I guess there are some members out there fighting the war in Iraq (who read the notes). What do you think that is important to them? Money? I don't think so. Maybe inspiration, maybe love, COMING HOME!

It's that kind of stuff; it's the basic stuff. If you don't address that stuff you don't build anything. You cannot increase if you don't strengthen the essence of stuff. It might be money, body, spirit and mind, something, it has to be something relevant to you at that moment other wise there's nothing gained.. It's sad, but true.

So what's important to you? Everything right? You want the spirit mind and body aligned perfectly right? The desire of the mind is more important than the desire of the BODY! The desire of the spirit is more important than the desire of the MIND! That kind of stuff right?

You want that to line up somehow ultimately down to the body. I wish that upon you. And if I can help you, I'll help you as much as I can. If three hundred million Americans say "I want ten thousand dollars, that's three trillion dollars. So you have to work that number situation out a little bit. You can't do things like that, right? Otherwise you'll go belly up very quickly; you're dead.

Do I see you as a black person or do I see you as humanity? Do I see you as a white person or do I see you as humanity. Do I see you as Japanese or do I see you as humanity. It's that kind of stuff. That's what we need to revisit, and teach our children too. They can learn from us, from that point, from that fundamental aspect. If we don't do our job correctly, it isn't going to work.

(The sound of flatulence is heard)

Somebody is blasting off. (Laughter)

No problem. It happens. (Much laughter / Hyo-Jin-nim pauses to recompose himself)

Thank you. (Lots more laughter)

You made my day! (More laughter)

If you want that perfect alignment, spirit, mind, and body, don't ask somebody else, ask yourself. OK.

Where are you?

What is the most important thing to you, to that question?

And don't blame it on anybody else.

You answer that first before you try to find a solution.

YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMIT!

Otherwise expansion is futile.

Ask yourself sincerely, "Where am I; what do I want?" and from that you start.

OK?

See you later.

(Taps the podium twice)

Your Wish List

Hyo Jin Moon
July 22, 2007
Belvedere, 7:00 am

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 22 July 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv and definingmoment.eu
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and Yeon-Ah-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

A thousand more of these and twenty years will pass, right? (Laughter)

How are you doing? (OK)

Sometimes I want to say something, but there are too many young people here so I have to kind of hold it back.

If you have a wish list, what is it?

Do you have a wish list?

If you do have a wish list obviously you're going to have some kind of practical anchor or something. You've thought of some kind of practical anchor, something that is based on reality, because not every reality is our wish.

Even a drunkard can say "I wish for world peace." Is that world peace? That is not world peace.

There is a whish list, so what is your wish list? And what is your practical reality that you're trying to anchor yourself into? Because unless that is clear you're just going to be floating around, and get lost at times.

That has to be the kind of fundamental thing that you always question yourself, because if you don't others will do it for you. In the end you are responsible. People will say "Hey you have to be responsible for your consequences; that is the nature of responsibility."

You can talk about responsibility in religious terms, social terms, but there's consequences and it can be severe at times.

No body likes to go to jail right? Do you want to go to jail? (No) Have you been to jail? (One member responds "yes.") OK good for you. (Laughter)

Because it's a great experience. Now don't.. don't... I shouldn't talk like this to you. (Laughter)

So what is your wish list? How many people over here in this room have a father, have parents that who are considered by many in the world to be billionaires, have a lot of material wealth, how many people? Would you be here if your parents were like that?

And what if that so-called materialistically well off person is a religious leader, and a misunderstood one at that, still to this day. Because I know for a fact that there is a different law for you if you're a Moonie, especially if your Father's children; (Hyo-Jin-nim laughs) and that's reality.

So what good is all that stuff, and what does that represent? Who is Father to you? Who is father to me? Let me ask myself that question.

I don't like to talk about "I" because it is inappropriate, not at this platform. Why, because every give and take has a subject and object relationship and it should not be about me.

That's why I don't talk about myself too much. Can I talk about myself? Oh heck yeah! But it's inappropriate; it's not right; it doesn't serve the greater purpose, because that's what you're trying to do.

I'm here as a human being trying to give and take with another human being and this platform calls for you being the subject, not me. That's about it. There is appropriation for every little thing in the world, even just look at your body, if it is not appropriated properly you are going to be retarded, mentally disturbed, sick or something.

That's reality. You can have your wish list out the kazoo, but there are certain things that you just can't do because of your practicality, of your reality. If you do not understand where you stand, you will never have your wish list, because your wishes will come true based on where you stand, ok, knowing where you stand.

What the heck is your wish anyway?

What do you want?

To me this life is jail to me. I just want it to go away.

But you have to let it follow the natural course, in other words, what God has planned out for you, and do the best you can to make it work, and make is prosper, make it better if you can, but that's very difficult.

Everybody wants to be somebody, but how many people actually become somebody, even if you have talent? So let's talk about practical stuff about you. "What can I do as a parent?" You, practically speaking, there are a lot of young people, you're going to be parents. You do stuff; you get educated, so you can have a profession, you can make a living.

Having said that, all that is good. Why do you do that? So you can have a family and hopefully that you can give something more than what you had to your children, and you will die.

So what do you want your children to be? I think that practically speaking, we lack in practical reality in this church. I think that we should teach our children to become healers, literally just get indo some kind of medical whatever, something practically speaking, something to do with healing, something to do with making life better for mankind stuff, something to do with inspiring mankind stuff, and most miserably educating mankind.

That's what we need. We need that kind of encouragement. We need that kind of reality. Otherwise there is no future for us.

How long did it take you to get to know Father? And how long did it take him to get to... I saw him in the beginning time, because I'm a little older than most of my little brothers. It was a miserable life. All day long, all day long, every day, it never ends. The less that you have for yourself the better. That's how you impress people. That's how this church was built, His church.

There's only one Messiah. My mother is not a messiah; she is the Messiah's wife. None of my brothers and sisters can be the Messiah; they're his children.

And if there's am exception to the rule about what I explained earlier about using this platform to say "I", only one person has that distinction. I guess that's the prerogative of the Messiah, no one else; no one else.

(Hyo-Jin-nim speaks in tears.)

Do you think that when my Father is dead and gone I can tell little kids to go suffer for ME?

I don't think so.

What your learning is a tradition, if you're going to keep on keeping on, you have to d-o t-h-e b-a-s-i-c t-h-i-n-g-s c-o-r-r-e-c-t-l-y, (emphasizing each word with a tap on the podium) no exception to the rule. That's why it's going to be a miserable life.

Do you want that? OK. I mean that is the greatest gamble that you can do with your life, and why not? If you make it, it can be the greatest thing. The more that you get involved you're going to get more miserable. Trust me.

So what is your wish list? What is your reality? What is your practical reality? You have to answer that stuff, nobody else. You!

Why, because I've seen so many people betray Father, and say "I'm the Father!" (Weeping)

I hope that you make the right decision.

Take care of your self, OK.