Forgiveness

Hyo Jin Moon
May 20, 2007
7:00 am Belvedere, NY

My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning. (Good morning)

Let's talk about forgiveness.

Have you ever hated somebody?

If you have hated somebody, please raise your hand.

Do you still hate that person?

If you look around, all the religious conflict is based on the ability to not forgive, right? It's born out of hatred because of differences of belief.

That fanatical Islamic community, they don't need any drugs, they purely hate Western society, especially America because it goes against what they believe.

And what they believe is absolute. Nobody else is right other than them. That fanaticism is fueled by anger, its some kind of self-righteous spiritual anger in the name of God, borrowing the name of God.

That's why they can kill themselves and teach young people to strap bombs on them selves and kill as many as they can.

And it doesn't stop there; if they could they would create more mass-destruction if that is doable.

But how do you stop this? That is by a reality based on spiritualism.

What about hatred just based on an intellectual level?

Let's say somebody stole your idea; let's say somebody conned you out of your hard-earned money because they're weaselly like. Whatever. You want to hate that person, and it's very difficult to forgive that person because they have taken so much from you. However, even on the intellectual level, that is doable. That can create the kind of hatred that changes your life, not for the good. Unfortunately it will torment you; it will isolate you. You will literally live in mental hell, mental incarceration. Why? Because you're just so angry you want revenge.

What about just on a physical level? Somebody beats you up, or somebody just stole your money outright, but not burglary and you have caught that person, and you know who beat you up. It is easy for you to forgive that person? You want some sort of retribution don't you?

Just because we have the ability to grow based on give and take, if it falls on the opposite direction, yes just that technical aspect of it will kick in too. It will affect you. That's why, in anger, if you feel that you have been victimized, you want to turn that process; you want to turn it on and do something about it. And what are you doing in actuality? It's about retribution and revenge.

If you want to forgive, you have to understand that you have the greater possibility to expand to grow.

An arrogant person cannot forgive. An arrogant person is limited to the body, limited to the mind state, spiritually limited as well.

Why? Just think about it. Suppose someone takes away your whole family and brainwashes your children to hate you, hate your own kind. For what ever self-justification they might have, they feel superior to you. How can you forgive that kind of person? Because you feel the anger from the tip of your hair follicle down to your toenails, your anger is to the degree that is makes you sick, physically sick, intellectually DARK.

You won't see the light of the day. All you'll see is what is in your head. It's that pure hatred, and that's what you feel too. And how do you go over that?

How do you try to forgive somebody when you feel that much hatred? It's difficult, obviously. You have to recognize.. But then you have to try. If you don't heal yourself then no body will. If you can't take care of yourself, nobody will.

Why, because you'll be dependent on someone else for the rest of your life. And who's to say that that person that you put yourself in the position of depending upon in curing your anger, dismissing your anger, nullifying your anger... how can someone erase something when someone doesn't know what the hell you've got?

In that kind of situation the only person that can cure you is you. You have to tell yourself, "OK what is going on here with me; why am I this angry?" Physically you have limited yourself to where the hell you were at the moment of inception of this miserable stuff. You're still stuck there physically.

Intellectually you have only entertained yourself with the thought of this tremendous amount of hatred and you're only allowing yourself to let that grow. Spiritually, pretty much, you've shut down.

Why? "I've got a problem with life, breathing stuff; I've got a problem with dealing with stuff with my mind and my body and I need to somehow resolve this." I know that is crying out inside of me. The inner voice inside me is crying out "You need to resolve this, other wise you're going to kill yourself"

Why, why am I stuck in this limitation? What is my limitation? You need to go back...

It takes two to Tango right? And basically you're trying to evaluate the wrongdoing in terms of a ratio. That guy is nine and I'm one or eight and two, that kind of stuff. It's that justification process.

Because it falls into that kind of rational thinking, that category of thinking, that happens. If you think like God obviously you can be a little more patient, more expansive right? But that's just good enough for me. Pretty much that's where I'm stuck.

Remember, we all die and will be judged. You stand for your consequences.

Some people do stupid stuff; they play games with you and you forgive them and you forgive them. It's a never ending game with some kinds of people. So you say to yourself "Why the hell should I forgive that guy one more time?"

But there comes a time in situations like that that you have to say "OK I'll forgive you." And walk away.

Why? Obviously that person has an issue that he needs to control; he needs to manage on his own, prior to having any kind of relationship with anybody else.

Why? Because we have to be responsible in relationships; at least if you have done wrong, you have to recognize what you have done wrong. If you don't have that capacity, what's the point? You start something and it will end the same way over and over and over again.

For the sake of that person, sometimes you just have to walk away. OK.

He'll face God's judgment. They'll face their own consequences. Every individual has a responsibility for their own perfection. And the basis of perfection is knowing how to relate with one another, and making the human relationship deeper and deeper and wider and wider and that kind of stuff.

You can't talk to a wall and understand human relationships. Do you understand me? So how do you, when you're faced with stuff, deal with somebody who has no capacity at that moment in time to change? You can be patient, but the thing is, the changes will happen when they will, and isn't that the catch.

If God cannot control mankind from the beginning, because of individual responsibility, no matter how you try to invest in somebody, unless they understand their basic value, and the responsibility of being human and facing up to the consequences of their own actions, right or wrong, and know how to complete them selves, you don't expect every direction you take, every step of the way to succeed all the time.

The basis of humanity has to be there and understood by yourself to build a true relationship with other humanity. And when you don't have that capacity, why, because you don't think that is important then why the hell don't you talk to a wall? You're just talking to the wall!

You're talking to some kind of entity that doesn't understand your language or concepts, perceptions.

You got a problem.

The only thing that you can do is pray for that person's soul. Sometimes that's all that you can do. "I hope you find yourself before you die." Because it will be much easier (on earth) than after dieing. "You will learn your lesson one way or the other."

So if you want to forgive, try to be humble. Be a humble man. It takes effort.

I jokingly always say that a humble man is nothing other than a man who keeps his arrogance to himself.

Know your limit.

Arrogance is limitation, and you can flaunt it as much as you want, but it's only in this life that you can find some sort of audience in certain unique circumstances.

Steve Jobs or whatever, that guy in Apple, his philosophy is that "I don't particularly care if I'm right as long as I'm successful." That's screwed up OK.

You can find something in life, but you want to complete your life, and in oneself there is Spirit Mind and Body. And controlling that in union is more important than centering on oneself possibility. You aren't going to take it (material) with you (when you die); that's for sure.

I need to forgive too.

I need to be forgiven by some people too.

And I have to do my best to be as humble as I can when I'm faced with that task at hand.

And so today...

OK

It's kind of depressing but, hey!

See you next week.

What Is Natural

Hyo Jin Moon
May 13, 2007
7:00 am Belvedere, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 13 May 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning. (Good morning)

Why are you coming?

Is somebody putting a gun to your head? (Laughter)

What is natural?

When we think about things that are natural what do we expect from some things that are natural?

Let's say that God is a loving God, in His lovingness what do we naturally expect? (A child on the front row answers "an embracing feeling.")

An embracing feeling, you should come and speak. (Laughter)

OK. A loving God to you I guess is an embracing feeling. Ah you know you need to be embraced sometimes.

Even a stone person like me needs to be embraced too, if I can get it. (Laughter) It's good to be embraced.

What else do we expect from a loving God? What is natural?

Are there stages? If we think about God in a natural sense, the lovingness that we expect from him, on the level of physicality, what do we expect?

What do we expect on the intellectual level? What do we expect on a spiritual level? Because there will be some variations.

I'm sure that the requirements or expectations can vary according to individuals, but I'm sure that there is some universality, some general outline, and some constants. If there is a sine curve or if there is a waveform, they'll be something in constants that create that form, because without that principle, that concept is irrelevant, it doesn't exist.

The circle is nothing other than just one cycle of a wave, putting verticalness and pushing it together. Then you have a circle.

So that rolls on and on and on. That's why things move in that direction that gives life. And it's linear because we live in the physical world. I don't think that we're mature enough to understand spirituality. We're barely learning how to maintain and manage our body, our mind, and it will take a lifetime to get there.

And spirituality, to have a relationship with God, to make the relationship with God natural, it's going to take a long time. It will take eternity, but you have a chance because you believe in eternity. You believe that you have spirit.

Let's think about it: In spirituality, even just the conceptualness alone, in a sense, dictates faith, the simple thing, faith.

Faith without absolute is no faith, has no faith right? You must have absolute to have faith. So faith without absolute has no faith.

Why? Because if you don't embrace that faith concept, you can't understand that crazy stuff about the Christian tradition, the fall of mankind. It doesn't make any sense.

There is a limitation to the eternalness of God Right? Unconditional love of God, how do you describe the unconditional love of God? If there is no description, then what's the point to talking about unconditional love if you can't describe it?

It has a description so it has a condition.

So when you talk about naturalness, especially spirituality, the ultimate achievement for us is to have the relationship with God, that eternal relationship, something that will take our life to learn about, our body, and our mind, just to manage and maintain.

Our sanity and our progress within the sanity understanding God and spirituality will push on forever, will expand forever. This life is nothing other than giving you the idea "That's how you will expand." That's It!

Just because you say "Awe I'm just about to croak" laying on your death bed and "now I know everything." It's not like that.

If it were, then we should all just try to make a pill that would make us really old and die so we can just cut to the chase, fast forward, cut away all the nonsense. (Much laughter)

Why not? If that were doable, I'd rather live that way. I'd rather take that course because it's too much energy living normally.

So what is natural to you? What do you expect out of your naturalness? What do you expect from nature? What do you expect naturally from yourself? What do you expect naturally from God?

Somehow that has to connect.

What do you see when you see nature? What do you learn from it? Do you see just the survival of the fittest or do you see some examples of nuances that... If pay attention, there's a lot of stuff that bugs and plants and animals do better than men. You know what I'm saying?

There are certain things that literally we have to learn from those lesser things right?

And what do you see in you, naturally? What goodness do you think... do you have? Do you have it? Do you know your evil side? I'm sure that you have some goodness there. I hope so. (Laughter) I don't think that anybody is pure evil.

And how does that connect. How do you compare to nature? And also you have to ask yourself then what do I naturally expect from God?

How do I see my God to be? If I see my God what is the impression that I expect of Him? Will He disappoint me or will He inspire me?

At least think about it! Have that description!

Forget about being disappointed; at least have a description first.

You should... because you are going to die with it.

You've got to know what you're dying for. At least you have to have a description of it.

Don't believe in something that you can't see, you can't feel, that you can't touch in your heart. You know what I'm saying?

If you don't have those, you'll drift; you'll fly away like a little tweety bird.

It is important to have that. Think what is natural. If we're good, naturally we should have a relationship with God.

Who is my God and what does this text book teach me, this nature? And hopefully, if we're good enough, if we have a definition, at least about self in community, we can find and we can accelerate that process a little faster. That's about it.

And you have more to share, something relevant that we need, not nonsense.

OK? Think about what is natural to you and goodness.

I don't know; you know; you have to find out.

There are generalities. You can talk about generalities, but look; you want to be special OK?

Find something that makes you special. That's the only way that we can be rich together.

OK? See you later.

Prosperity

Hyo Jin Moon
May 6, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere, Tarrytown, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 06 May 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Rev Michael Jenkins and Rev Bruce Grodner are in attendance.

(Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.)

Good morning. (Good morning)

Does everybody want to be prosperous?

Prosperity.

Do you want to be prosperous? (Yes)

In what way? (Laughter)

Money? Money way?

I'll cut right to the chase.

To me prosperity is a perception, a perception of how ones self thinks of ones self in contentment.

So when are you satisfied? Because prosperity equals satisfaction.

That varies. How do YOU see prosperity? Because it's a perception of how ones self thinks about ones self in contentment.

If you see today, like televangelists, people that are doing very well; they put on a great show. They package them selves very well and it's an event when you go there.

And an event has, I guess, a certain kind of appeal or expectation. For instance like on a commercial level, you create an event to sell your product.

In politics you create an event, make budget promises, and ask for your vote. (Laughter)

At times, in religious circles, you have an event and make a statement, make a proclamation of some sort, representing the Divine.

And it's how you use that kind of stuff to draw attention that makes the event highly successful or not. Right? (Yes)

And pretty much, that's how we communicate with one another on a larger scale. Otherwise it's one-on-one. You have to literally build things one-on-one.

And because of modernization we can afford that kind of large scale give and take using those kinds of situations, because we all have that kind of situational awareness of how things work.

Especially when people put on those kind's of things, they have certain expectations so to listen better to what the point is, and they'll try to hold you to it whether they're selling the right product (or not). And time will tell right? Whether it's a good politician or not or whatever.

Time will tell.

So however in the end what is all that for? Why is it necessary? You have to ask yourself, ultimately in the end, if we can find something that is universal.

What is that universality that we can all share in contentment?

And that's important. Because when you talk about being prosperous it's physical mind and body, and I guess certain people are stuck on a physical level because that's all they understand because I guess it might be environmental or whatever.

They're some people that are kind of stuck in the intellectual level. And they pretty much give their whole life in pursuit of creating that and getting greater and greater satisfaction in terms of their expansion intellectually.

And spiritually... And in spirituality it goes the same way but that's a very broad kind of reality. Because how do YOU find satisfaction, unless you have a telephone, a direct line to God, a red telephone, like Batman's Phone. (Laughter)

It's very difficult. If something is tangible or if something is intellectual at least you can feel it because there is give and take you can perceive and determine, analyze or whatever.

But how do you go about doing that, analyzing and defining perception when it comes to having a relationship with God? How do you ultimately feel that satisfaction?

So you have to take a leap of faith, right, and try to predict how God will think in satisfaction. NOT YOU! Not you first, but how HE would… What would He... What would God think that will make God satisfied, make Him feel that contentment?

When you chase after the notion, the feel of God, you can't determine based on your self. It's foolish isn't it? You have to think about how HE would perceive. That's the leap of faith that we have to take. What would make Him content?

He wanted us to procreate and proliferate like all the stars in the universe. What would make Him satisfied in the end? What would make Him happy? Because anything that gives contentment has all that stuff in there, prosperity, happiness and all that stuff that you want. But in the end if you want to chase God, that's what you have to do. You can't ask yourself, you have to ask what would make Him contented. That's the only way, because you have no idea.

Do you truly know what makes you feel satisfaction yet? You're still chasing it aren't you? At least I am. I'm not going to live that long. I'm still trying to figure out what, to this person, defines contentment. Only then can you truly feel prosperous in my eye.

Give a bunch of candy and French fries to children and they think that they're in prosperity. (Laughter) When they grow up that perception changes. That's about it isn't it?

It's true. I still think like that. I don't know about you. In my own way, in my own stupid way I do. The desire keeps you pushing on to try to expand to try to ask questions, what is more that I have?

Before you talk about giving, I have to know what I've got. What more do I have. Then comes the part about giving. That's the choice. It's the choice that made us fall. It's the choice that can make us successful too. Heavenly.

If it has to come from your responsibility, me and you, then that determination ultimately falls on you, and you have to expand your limitations. If you don't, you can never be prosperous.

You're going to make a big booboo. (Laughter) It just might be criminal.

So prosperity is in you. It's how you perceive seeing your limitations, but at the same time, don't let the notion of limitations bind you. You can expand. The world has boundaries, sure, but expand, right?

Unconditional love has conditions right? (Laughter) Know yourself and that answer lies in you. No body else can give it to you.

And if we can be the church that can understand more that just the kind of prosperity stuck on the body or the mind. Maybe a little higher.. Hey let the best man win right? That's about it isn't it.

We'll attract people because that's how we think, that's how we live and if we can showcase those more in confidence, trust me; it will be beautiful. And people are attracted to beautiful things.

It can be done. Others can sort of do it. We can do it too; we'll certainly do it if we put our hearts and minds together in our efforts. Faith and effort, hey, to start that's all you have.

But you have to believe. God still believes that this world can become an ideal world. We have to believe right? Otherwise we will all perish right?

We can't let that happen right? That's not an option.

So let's see what we got! OK?

I guess next week is Mother's day. You guys going to be busy? (Busy fundraising so perhaps Hyo-Jin-nim should not speak. Audience responds "We'll be here!) I'll be here. (Much laughter)

I'll see you next week.

What Do You Want To Love?

Hyo Jin Moon
April 29, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere, Tarrytown, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim's speech Sunday 29 April 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim's website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

Good morning.

Let's talk about love.

What do you want to love? (Hyo-Jin-nim waits for an answer)

Say Something! (Laughter)

What do you want to love? (God)

You want to love God, what else? (Everybody)

I guess this is the kind of answer you'd expect in a religious setting, right?

What about people who are not religious?

What do you think that they want to love, money, fame, power, beauty?

And so I guess we all have our definition of love. It depends on a kind of tribal reality.

The particulars are obviously stressed.

That's kind of the basic difference in that make it difficult at times to unite everybody because a lot of us all around the world based on that kind of reality, tribal reality, what we value as love, the concept of it, it varies.

So when everybody knows love is good, however the value of love differs. There is obviously a potential for conflict, and that difference makes it difficult at times.

But certain things are fundamental regardless of how you may like a particular thing, desire a particular thing. One could translate that desire as the definition of love.

Certain particulars are universal. And anytime you talk about unity, we have to understand, if it exists, what that particular is. Otherwise we have no grounds for unification. There is no foundation. There is no basis.

So that recognition, if there is such a thing, that it should be the grounds in which we plant the seed. Otherwise it won't happen.

When you talk about love, who do you want to love; what kind of people do you want to love? Beyond the kind of material thing that we like to love if there is a type of people what kind of people do you want to love?

What type of people can we think about universally and have a kind of mutual understanding in the basis of whom you want to love? There has to be some kind of quality there.

It's very difficult to unite something unless you have that understanding unless you want to love something.

When you try to show love to your children, first of all there has to be a basis in which they can understand and they can reciprocate with you. That becomes the cause of understanding or realizing love.

What is that?

You can start with giving right? What kind of giving? Based on the level of understanding and maturity that is the first thing that teaches us of the concept of love.

It might start with the frivolous things for children because they're still immature. Their maturation level is relatively low, however it starts with giving.

Giving what? It varies. But the concept of giving is the basis of learning about love or making love, the realization of love.

So what do you want to give? When you talk about the concept of giving what is actually happening? If that is the cause, what is the effect?

When you give something to somebody hopefully you give because you want that person to what? To become better, right?

And that completion of cause and effect, action and reaction, makes you realize love.

And it has to be better, to make you better in the end.

When you give certain things to children, that giving or that understanding, feeling better might be temporary because you're giving candy or what not. You make them feel better. They're sad and all of a sudden you give them candy and they feel better. It might be very short in terms of duration; however through that little child, by the action of giving, something has turned in their little moment of life, in their head, something better.

So when we mature to the point of understanding eternity or start to ponder or try to understand God obviously the value of giving or the quality of giving, the stuff that you want to receive takes on a value or takes on a meaning that is equal to that pursuit. Right?

You want to learn about eternity. You want to learn about God. Then the giving, the something that makes you better should possess that kind of eternal quality.

So it changes as we mature. And as we mature to the fullest adulthood so we can start to understand those things, the things of value in terms of making you better takes on those definitions because it must.

That is what's valuable in giving.

You talk about unconditional giving, but the funny thing is that even unconditional giving has conditions. Why?

It has to make you better in the eyes of God. It has to make you a better person who can co-relate and co-exist with God for eternity.

You can't just unconditionally give money to terrorist so that they can kill people. That's not unconditional giving,

Even forgiveness too, There is no such thing as unconditional forgiveness. It has to have meaning, purpose. If it has a purpose it has a condition.

How can you forgive somebody if he doesn't have in his heart the wrong that he has committed? What is the purpose? There is no purpose then. There is no meaning.

It has to have conditions. Even in giving someone unconditional love, unconditional forgiveness, it has conditions because it must serve a purpose.

Purpose of goodness right? Eternal goodness. Otherwise there's no meaning. They'll do it again and again and again right?

What is the purpose of forgiving wrong if it's going to be done over and over and over again?

It has no purpose.

We want to love people who make us better, right?

That's the kind of love that we want, right?

Someone who can help you to be better.

Because when you receive that kind of love you know it's meaningful to you as much as to the person who gives it away.

And that's the kind of meaningful thing, and that's the kind of people you want to love in the end, for a long time, the longer the better right? (Yes)

And that's not easy. Who said it was easy right? (Laughter)

Anything that is meaningful, anything that is worthwhile holding onto forever is challenging, will be difficult to achieve, but it can be done.

If God can endure all sorts of misery and pain, that we've ... in our life time. If God's allowing us to understand and make that happen, then he will assist us in every which way.

That's a pretty good deal isn't it? (Laughter)

And it can be done if we understand the value of love and how it's done, and if we take responsibility to try to be the kind of people for people around you, around us want to truly love you, it can be done.

That's the grass-root thing. You know what I'm saying? (Yes)

It will grow. That stuff, if it grows that way, it will last because it will take root first and it will grow.

And I believe everybody can do that, be valuable to someone else, because you can give to someone else something of value and make someone else better, hopefully better than you.

Now that is the Ideal World; that's how you build it.

If there is a way, that's the way.

You can do it. You might get addicted to it. Who knows?

Certain personality types gravitate to those things much quicker than the other people you know?

So it varies, but it can be done.

The more people like that we have, the better for our movement.

OK?

Take care you guys.

Are People Born Evil?

Hyo Jin Moon
April 22, 2007 7:00 am
Belvedere, Tarrytown, NY

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim’s speech Sunday 22 April 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim’s website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.
(Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.)

Good morning.

Let me start off by asking you a question.

Are people born evil? (Audience responds "no.")

I have to talk about it because obviously we all know what happened. (The context is the 33 deaths on Virginia Tech Campus last week)

All those innocent lives lost. That’s unthinkable; the degree of shock and the horrendousness is just immeasurable.

We have to talk about it because it happened.

The thing is that it happens not just in America, but in places like Iraq where America is trying to bring democracy. Dozens of people, at times hundreds of people die every day. That’s a tragedy.

If you really try to put it out because taking care of ourselves in it’s self is difficult. You don’t want to think about a problem that exists in the world where truly people are selfish and dying.

But that’s another issue when it comes to you and me, when it comes to "I."

What happens to "I"?

That’s what’s important, right? Because from that "I" something happens, hopefully something for the right. And even that is a hope. It’s not a conclusion. It might be a promise to your self therefore in light of yourself you want to view it as something of hopefulness.

Sometimes you don’t want to pat yourself on the back too often. Because if you do that too often without any results, that matters beyond yourself, right? Beyond "I".

Can we stop this nonsense? Is it possible?

If none of us is born evil then how did these people become so evil?

If that is not the epitome of the definition of evil then I don’t know what is.

You can blame it on psychological stuff. You can say that young man was demented, but how did he get so demented?

How did he get so corrupted; How did he get so fouled that he can do something with no remorse whatsoever, even to the point at the end of taking his own life.

I thought that was easier than shooting 32 innocent people. That is serious stuff.

What happened? What happened?

You developed-nation people understand the importance of diet right?

You have to have a well balanced diet, right? You have to have the right minerals; you have to have vegetables, and dairy products, proteins, and whatever, healthy and balanced to keep your body healthy.

What about the mind? You see children obsessing over certain sugary stuff. You can’t feed them that stuff forever. Somebody has to be looking after children when they’re growing up, even physically.

What about mentally? Whose responsibility is that? Are we supposed to educate children just so they can get a job, and more and more in modern days you need to be specialized so what ever special skill it demands to get a decent job in the workforce and whatever the stuff you need to survive and take care of the business. And it’s there for that and it ends there.

Where else do you spend time? Hopefully you spend time in churches right? And how often do you spend time in church? You spend your waking moments after you turn six years old or so pretty much outside your house preparing yourself to make a living ultimately. That’s it. Think about it.

What do you envy? Envy has a negative connotation doesn’t it? But it can also be positive. Anything bad can be turned into good; good can be turned into bad, because we have that power. We have such subjectivity over everything all under creation.

OK You take the envy and what do you envy? Why are you envious? When you envy something just obsessively its like you saying I want to eat just sugar, I don’t want to eat anything else. Well you’re going to get sick very soon OK.

You have to know how to balance this stuff. And what if you don’t have that available then you’ve got to put something in your stomach. Right? So you can live. Right?

So you have to know how to do that. People that fail to recognize that aspect of maintenance, just self maintenance, they loose the point.

Many problems rise from that. Individual, personal, emotional, characteristical problems arise from that.

Things that are out there, they’re just like things in your diet you need minerals fruit and vegetables, protein, all that stuff. You need to balance that if you want a healthy body. Just as with your mind the same goes for that too.

What about the spirit? What sense of love are you talking about here when you’re talking about a proper diet for the spirit? What kind of diet will you be chasing after?

You should be able to be in control of everything that you have the potential of being… of achieving. Even just taking envy for instance, why can’t you envy someone that you love, some goodness that they possess?

Why does it have to be something that is so far from you? All this stupid stuff comes because you practice stupid things; you think in stupid ways; and you practice stupidly. Because that’s what you think it is and it’s not. It’s not like that.

Like I said last week, always better is in tomorrow. I feel for those kids... but I guess you have to move on right?

If you want to learn how to live you have to know how to give right? Give what? What will last? What can you leave behind that will last when you die?

You will not take money with you. You will not take whatever fame with you. What you take is what you have given to others. That’s what you take.

If you want to envy something things that can turn people into all sorts of craziness, make sure that there is a right way of using it.

It is not just wrong. We just don’t know how to use it properly.

Don’t blame God.

Bad happens because we make bad right?

And hopefully there is a learning to this and it doesn’t go in vain American people.

OK.

Take care.

Self

Hyo Jin Moon
April 15, 2007
Belvedere, 7:00 am

Here are my notes from Hyo-Jin-nim’s speech Sunday 15 April 2007. My ability to convey what was actually said is limited. These, at most, convey some sense of what Hyo-Jin-nim said and are not a verbatim record. Hyo-Jin-nim’s website is: www.canaanstation.com/ To see two of the projects that Hyo-Jin-nim is working on log on to: definingmoment.tv/ and definingmoment.eu/
Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo-Jin-nim and offer a standing bow.

Hyo-Jin-nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage.

How have you been doing? (Hyo-Jin-nim last spoke at Belvedere Feb 18th. He has just returned from performing in Korea and Japan.)

Is everybody OK?

Let’s talk about self.

You know there are so many self-help books out there. Improve yourself this way or that way…

What is the first step? If you read any books that is the kind of guidance that you want.

Normally if they have a proper perspective it has to focus on you.

You have the answer. What is your best? What can you do best?

That is the first answer you need. You have to question yourself and give the answer.

You have to do that. What can I do best?

For the time being just put aside the idea that "I want to be the best, the greatest."

Just what can I do best?

Knowing your limits and because everything has its time and place.

Time ticks forward so you have to think in the present before you think about the future.

And when you think about the present and knowing the limit means that’s how you lived and you think about history. That’s when you think about the past.

Finding your best if you have to make that conclusion, you can only find it today.

Tomorrow might be different. Hopefully that’s how you’re going to get better.

So you have to ask yourself: "what can I do today, what is my best?"

And if you have that insight then you can think about what is my greatest.

And even when you have that answer of being the greatest that you can be, then comes the greater responsibility.

If you do, and I believe we do, as we live with God, in relation with God, a relationship with God, you have to think about a greater responsibility.

Obviously you’re not just doing this for yourself, right? So why do I have my greatest? What is it for? You have to answer that question too.

That means that you give, and that’s very inevitable. That’s the next point; that’s the next phase.

The final phase would be that living that life, you have to expand because you can always do more. And more is in tomorrow, never in today or yesterday.

So from there you find your direction and you invest your life, your short life. (Laughter)

You have to think that even the greatest is relative. Right? Not everybody can be number one, the champion.

It sounds nice but it doesn’t work that way when you try to cram everyone into a time frame especially in the present. Do you understand what I’m saying?

It doesn’t work. So what are you chasing? What kind of understanding do you have toward what is greatest?

It has to be real to you. You can’t just live a fantasy for the rest of your life, because if you do your life will take all sorts of unwanted directions. Why, because you’re living a lie.

You can say it’s a dream, a fantasy, but if it is not real it can be a fantasy or a nightmare.

You really have to know how to pace yourself. First you ask yourself what is my best. Figure it out! You know yourself. Nobody else does better than you. Figure it out.

Is it going to take care of me? Will this be able to take care of me being my best, give me my self-sufficiency? And from there give me the room or the possibility to do my will to my nation and to God?

You have to answer that question. You have to find that best. Because it’s a different kind of time.

Father, his best is being the king right? (Laughter) There is only one Father. Right?

There is only one Messiah. That’s it. That’s what He’s best at.

But that’s not me. I have to find my best. I have to find my greatest. And I have to struggle to make that offering. And I have to struggle again to expand.

That’s my choice. That’s the choice that I have to make. And that’s the life that I have to live if I want to receive what I want to receive.

Because I believe in something, that’s the price that I pay to receive what I believe.

It’s just as simple as that.

And as you live life the one thing that is important, that I realize is that you have to forget what you did, especially when you think that you did something good.

Why? Because it just became yesterday.

You don’t live in yesterdays. You don’t live in memories; that’s stupid. People lock them up, you know what I mean?

It’s better to always focus on tomorrow. You have to think about tomorrow. That’s when you find yourself expansion.

You want to be bigger right? You want to be greater right? It’s always in tomorrow, never in yesterday or today.

All you can do best is recognize that and remind yourself of that again. You should get out of your -- and say "Hey! Calm down! Be cool! Forget it! Hold on! The better is in tomorrow."

Because if you don’t do that, then nobody will. Why? Because in the end, you only listen to yourself. (Laughter) So just get rid of all the nonsense and go right to the chase.

Listen to someone that you will listen to in the end. If you kind of remind yourself of that you can make it a habit, a good habit, because no one is going to take care of you better than yourself. OK?

If we don’t know how to take care of ourselves, that’s something else, then we need.  Something like -- well anyway. (Laughter)

When you talk about yourself, what do you really, really think about yourself?

Pray about it.

Soul search it.

Squeeze your brain until it blows up. (Laughter)

What can I do or what is my best?

From there, move on.

OK?

Build from there.

Taking it from there you think about practicality and what you want to do for the sake of a greater purpose.

You need to balance.

There are some things that will change and you should make it keep on changing.

At the same time there is some thing that should be unchanging, absolutely.

You need to live a balanced life.

Because if you don’t it will skew and it will tilt.

You don’t live that long properly.

There’s always better stuff tomorrow.

Always in tomorrow.

Believe it.

Because that’s true.

That’s why I want to change. That’s why I want to expand.

That’s why I WILL expand and I WILL change.

There is something that won’t change, that understanding, knowing that it works that way.

OK?

It was good to see you again.

See you next week.

Special Lecture by Hyo Jin Nim at Chungshim Graduate School of Theology

Dae Mo Nim
March 25, 2007

Hyo Jin Nim giving a lecture at Chungshim Graduate School of Theology.

Hyo Jin Nim giving a lecture at Chungshim Graduate School of Theology.

Hyo Jin Nim visited Chungshim Graduate School of Theology on March 20, 11 a.m..

Prior to this day, Hyo Jin Nim held a concert commemorating 'True Parents' Birthday and True Father's 88th Birthday (Misu) on March 17 at the Olympic Park, Seoul. He also said that the success of the concert was by the much effort and devotion put in by many members. Therefore, he came to see the students of the Graduate School and talk to him as they represent the members who dedicated themselves for the success of the concert.

Through the special lecture held in the Chapel, Hyo Jin Nim said.

Relationships between one another are very important but to have good relationships will the people of the world, it is important to have knowledge of the world. Having that foundation you can give grace to the people of the world.

It is important for the unification members to know about intellectual people really well; especially the leaders must know this concept. Also the pastors must know about this point.

Money is really important in the world, so we also have to think about money. However, people of the world receive much grace when we are sacrificing greatly. Therefore, for us to be able to give grace to other people, it is a prerequisite for us to have an absolute preparedness. That resolution is not an easy thing to have. We must continuously put effort in it.

After the special lecture Hyo Jin Nim and the students of the Graduate School took a commemorative photo in front of the main building. Then he shook hands with each of the students.

The speech that Hyo Jin Nim gave was a really good guideline for the students of the Chungshim Graduate School of Theology, where each will walk the path of leaders of Cheon Il Guk.

Father Needs You

Hyo Jin Moon
February 24, 2007
Chungshim Youth Center
Chung Pyung, Korea

Thank you. What should I talk about to you people, who are important because True Father needs you? I believe you will do well. Please do your best. Then you can go back home. [Applause]

This morning Father spoke to you; I'm sure he will continue to share many good points with you. If I had anything I wanted to say, I wouldn't need to because you all believe in Father and follow him, and you know yourselves best. In that sense, I too, as Father's son, must attend Father. He gave me the name Hyo-jin which is why the only thing I need to do is be dutiful to my parents. [Applause] I guess you could say that this is the path I should take until my death. We only die once so we should die well. I'm beginning to feel that time is short.

You are here because Father gave you the word, the Principle. Beyond that, Father has also spoken about true love, about loving humanity and about living for the sake of others. He has lived completely immersed in the word.

You all have important positions in the church; some of you are district leaders. Your path in the end must be rooted in and aligned with True Parents. Consequently, your reality is, shall I say, an unending challenge. Why? Because new choices are constantly emerging. The path you will take until the day you go to the world after death will be the most strenuous, difficult, tiring and lonely path. Isn't that the path of a church leader?

I can frankly say to you, as a father, that when you raise children, you absolutely want every single one of them, without exception, to create a family. This desire does not end with your family; there is no end in the particular bloodline you belong to. Why? It will carry on into your role as an ancestor.

Regardless of what kind of seed is produced from a certain individual, regardless of whether he or she knows the Unification Church, this is something that is the same for everyone. Nobody can deny this reality nor avoid this challenge. I'm sure that such a consensus regarding the position you are in exists regardless of where you go -- and I don't really know you. That is what people -- even your children who have begun family life -- will feel all throughout their lives, regardless of their age. They will surely feel that burden accumulating throughout their lives; they cannot feel free from it.

Yet, how true is that in itself? Is it real? You are the only ones who know the truth about this. If you're going to do something (Father has said this, hasn't he?), you might as well do it right, or you would be better off not doing it.

When you carefully observe children these days, honestly speaking, the kids in Korea are just like those in America. This is because this country is now about to enter the ranks of the developed nations from the ranks of the underdeveloped nations. Different aspects of the environment have improved, and in many respects people feel security from their standard of living. The situation is such that the youth are now acutely aware of the extent to which they can control a certain situation, which cannot compare with how things were in the past. The technology the young people speak of is quite formidable. They are not easily persuaded. Nothing can be done if you don't do it seriously. If you're going to do something professionally you should do it to the end. It will definitely not work if you do it half-heartedly.

That is how people look at it. People these days say they like a certain celebrity they see on TV. In this age, unlike the past, you see people walking around like someone from a comic book, frankly.

In various places in America, there is a gaping difference in that standard compared to the past. That is the reality. In the past, information that took a year to be conveyed is now conveyed in an instant. You can find everything you need in a single day, and you can do that right in your living room!

I have a favor to ask you. Please forgive me. [Applause] How wonderful it would be if symbolic things were one and the same with reality. Is there anything that is naturally and automatically perfected from the start without going through a process of growth? There is no need to ask; each individual has his own portion of responsibility. Who says? Has there been anybody who helped another or even asked for help? That's the truth. It's the undeniable and absolute truth. That is reality. Really, do you think I came to Chung Pyung because I like it? Do you think I came here because I wanted to? There are not so many people here that I like. There are many whose thoughts are more like those of an enemy, to tell you the truth.

You must now persuade people to live for the sake of others. Weren't the members of the Unification Church with plenty of money called to come here? It isn't easy to witness to people these days. It isn't easy to take care of those who are in the movement, either. What should we do? It is also difficult to witness to people who have problems because their standard is different. It is particularly difficult to deal with people with many problems. Isn't that so? You must really invest a lot. That is the only way. The way to fill people with grace is by sacrificing, or otherwise by financial means. You have to present things to people in a way that they can really feel it. Otherwise, they will feel reluctance.

Sometimes, honestly speaking, I don't want to be near own my parents. If I go to them, I don't feel so good. It's not as if I know everything. Also, there are many among you here whom I don't know. That's a fact. Yet, I also see many familiar faces.

Did I come here to judge you? I am not here to be judged either [Applause] I know that you have faith and are doing a good job. I too was blessed again by True Parents. You should now receive a lot of blessings and do your best. Let's do our best in our lives.

On a personal note, my body is almost completely well. I am preparing now to begin my work in earnest. So I will offer what Father needs to the extent that I can and to the best of my ability. That is all that I can do. In the end, those are the things that are needed in our activities.

The Principle is the Principle. Yet, you would need a lot of self-development -- or shall I say a lot of useful information and material -- to create an opportunity to start a conversation using what's in the Principle. This must be in the hands of each individual, of the members.

In case there is good information, I'm saying that we should enter into good competition. We are now living in the internet age. That is why broadcasting stations no longer spend as much money as they did in the past. If somebody can provide a good idea, if they just have the content, they can attract a lot of people. They can draw the attention of the audience and continue to develop themselves. It must first begin from the psychological level. From there it can spread to the church. If you can't feel that yourself, people will naturally go in search of something more profound. You have to be working with that focus. Otherwise, who will follow you when you tell them to?

Such things must emerge on their own at various points. That is why it is desirable to have that kind of good competition. Then a lot more people will gather in different places as one person speaks. What good is it to gather and talk?

I think that coming to speak is the greatest gift I can offer to Father. That is how I honestly feel. I don't think there is anything else. I will continue to do that. [Applause]

It seems you have tried to create that kind of opportunity. If it is there, let's go and do it. But it is hard for me. People feel good when they have something to do that they want to do. If you want to come, come. If not, don't. I told you that at the Berlin Wall, I would have gone anyway without you. I have now just begun. There is nothing else. I am somebody who can focus on that task and carry on with it. Didn't you all set conditions and strive to live like that?

That is what I have to say. I was asked to come and say hello to you today but honestly, what is there that I can do that would be of some help to you? Thank you for your hard work. You are all doing a great job. Isn't that what I should say? Isn't that what I should say to make you happy? I should make you happy and just leave. That's what I was originally thinking of doing. [Applause] I will do things one at a time. If you've endured until now, please endure a little bit more. Thank you.

If I were to have one last wish, I would ask you to pray and set conditions so that Father can live for a long lime. Shouldn't he live for another fifty years; don't you think? I'm asking you this as it is the only thing I can ask you. What else can I ask you to do? And if you really want to give me something please do so. That's the gift I need most. Whatever you appear to be doing for me or appear to be doing for Father, you are still his children, right? If you can at least do that, I too can recover that mindset that I had in the past of having hope and doing my best. I will work on melting away the hard feelings I had and try to love. Total Love! Thank you.